Lisa Donovan is a multi-hyphenated creator who developed The Pattern, one of the most popular apps that only continues to catch the interest of people globally. She joins Sophia on the podcast today to talk about being one of the pioneers of YouTube, what it feels like to be seen and understood, and the impact The Pattern is making on people’s lives and how they understand themselves. Executive Producers: Sophia Bush & Rabbit Grin ProductionsAssociate Producers: Samantha Skelton & Mica SangiacomoEditor: Josh WindischArtwork by the Hoodzpah SistersThis show is brought to you by Brilliant AnatomySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.