Rich is joined by Dene Carter and interviews him about his new Ultima-like Moonring, his approach to world-building, and more. Dean Carter has been involved in the creation of numerous classics including Dungeon Keeper and Fable. Games: Cataclismo, Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor, The Thaumaturge, and The Pale Beyond. To contact us, email call@gamerswithjobs.com! Send us your thoughts on the show, pressing issues you want to talk about, or whatever else is on your mind. Links and Show Notes