Do Labour's by-election wins add up to a political earthquake, and a sure sign that the Conservatives are destined to lose the next election? Or are they what you'd expect from a party that's been in power for 13 years facing difficult circumstances in both seats. Matt is joined by an expert panel including polling expert Professor John Curtice, Times Radio's Patrick Maguire and shadow cabinet minister Nick Thomas-Symonds.Plus: Columnists India Knight and James Heale discuss Joe Biden's defence of democracy, one year since Liz Truss left No 10, and could the next election really be as late as 2025? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.