Our guest today is Chaim Oren, an expert on wellbeing and human high performance in his role with Hintsa Performance, who advise professional sportspeople and leading CEOs

Chaim is the son of two Holocaust survivors who arrived in British mandate Palestine on the Exodus ship in 1947. 

His late uncle Dov Shilansky, the 12th speaker of the Knesset was a close confidant of Menachem Begin.

Chaim’s own family history takes in the schisms within European Jewry and early Zionism - and we discuss how those faultlines exist to this day.

But then again, we develop into how Israel comes together in times of existential crisis and how the intense unity has followed on from intense political divisions, created by the attempts to reform the judiciary.

Stories of great personal courage have emerged amid Hamas’ savagery and brutality on October 7th.

Stay tuned for a story of incredible heroism from an everyday Israeli, Rachel Edri, who kept Hamas fighters at bay for hours and hours and saved her own and her father’s lives.

Ours is a tough, brass tacks kind of conversation, but in typical Jewish and Israeli spirit, it ends with optimism and how we will emerge from this with a positive frame of mind.

Chaim is full of anecdotes and quotes, it’s a rich conversation. I hope you enjoy Chaim Oren’s company as much as I did.