In this insightful episode, we will be exploring the complex dynamics that exist between football managers and referees. We will delve deep into the multifaceted challenges that referees face, the intricate perspectives of various stakeholders on the rules of football, the transition of refereeing into a professional realm, the influence of the relatively new and ever-evolving technology of VAR (the Video Assistant Referee), and the nuanced relationship that managers maintain with referees.