Jack Knox is a world renowned trainer of stock dogs. Originally from Scotland, Jack came to the Inited states in the 1970s at the age of 31. Today, he and his wife, Kathy, travel to country putting in stock dog clinics. Jack joins Ben and Joe to discuss his remarkable journey that started with a young boy who always to be a sheperd. Topics discussed include the importance of making mistakes, what motivates a winner and what it requires to be happy.