Topics: (0:00) How I discovered Matt (2:10) Junior champion rowing (5:08) Losing identity (7:33) Matt’s mental health at 19 years (10:20) Was e-commerce a short-term game for Matt? (14:52) Why was Matt attracted to design? (16:28) Space Goods design (18:40) £1,000,000/month to rock bottom (24:34) Getting back to a place of joy (30:50) Hate online (41:00) Cynical optimism (44:30) Crying in bedroom previous January 2022 (50:05) What does Matt do when he’s feeling down (54:50) What does Matt recommend to people who are feeling down? (57:20) Has it become “cool” to do nothing? (1:05:38) The power of media (1:06:20) Try more things (1:13:18) Time billionaires (1:14:10) Matt’s 4 pillars (1:23:15) Loving yourself (1:25:10) Fueled by negativity vs. positivity Matt Kelly is an entrepreneur and designer. He previously scaled two companies (Neon Beach and Midnight City) to a combined $1 million/month in monthly revenue, only to have it all come crashing down due to logistical issues and scaling too quickly. In that process, he hit rock bottom mentally. Today, he starts the comeback. His latest company is called Space Goods, which aims to be a beautifully designed, next-generation wellness brand. In this conversation, we spoke about Matt's mental health, dealing with hate online, cynical optimism, and his four pillars. Matt's Links Twitter / Space Goods / Podcast / Instagram