This is a special bonus episode: It is Part 2 of our interview with Xhensila Reci. In the previous episode we spoke with Xhensila about Purpose Driven Design and its relation to Sustainability (--> Link). In this bonus episode we do the friendship book and speak about Xhensilas way into UX and to LEGO and we play together her wonderful card game “Someone You” (--> Link) to learn more about each other. 
It is the first time that we split an interview into two episodes. But since the whole conversation with Xhensila was just wonderful and super insightful, we decided that we did not want to cut anything out. 
If you haven’t heard part 1 of the interview yet, we recommend you listen to it first: SUX EP 10 - “Purpose Driven Design with Xhensila Reci” https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/suxpodcast/episodes/SUX-EP-10---Purpose-driven-design-with-Xhensila-Reci-e2dpmeo 

Connect with our guest or us:
Xhensilas Channels:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xhensila/ 
Xhensilas Website: https://www.xhensilareci.com/
Xhensilas Card-Game “Someone You”: https://www.xhensilareci.com/shop/someoneyou 
Xhensilas Talk about Purpose Driven Design at at WUC 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZAURrbVmM4&t=4s&ab_channel=WorldUsabilityCongress⁠


Sources from the episode:
Book “The Atlas of the Heart” by Brené Brown: https://brenebrown.com/book/atlas-of-the-heart/

Our Channels:
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