In this episode, Cally talks to journalist, speaker and best-selling author Helen Russell about happiness, sadness, life, death, parenthood, fertility, arrival fallacy, being ginger, crying on planes, crying off planes, telephone phobia, loneliness, Scandinavia, altruism, therapy, medication and washing machines.

Twitter @MsHelenRussell and Instagram @MsHelenRussell
Helen's book How to Be Sad
Helen's website helenrussell.co.uk
Bereavement support for SIDS loss
Could having a baby give you PTSD?
Harvard happiness course
Mo Gawdat

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