In this segment, we discuss topics related to physical security and social engineering. We also touch on the challenges and strategies for implementing effective security measures. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between physical security and social engineering. The panel emphasizes the need for a comprehensive approach to security, acknowledging that social engineering and physical security often go hand in hand. We stress the significance of testing physical security measures and conducting threat assessments to ensure robust protection against potential threats. The conversation touches on the concept of usability versus security, acknowledging that security measures should provide a balance between effective protection and practical usability. We explore the vulnerabilities of certain security technologies, such as biometrics, and underscore the need for continuous evaluation and adaptation of security measures to mitigate emerging threats. Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/psw-817