Cary Schwarz has been a saddle maker for over 40 years and is a founding member of the Tradition Cowboy Arts Association (TCAA). The TCAA is a non-profit dedicated to preserving and promoting the traditional cowboy crafts, such as saddle making. Cary joins Ben and Joe to discuss his career and involvement in the TCAA. Topics discussed include the founding of the TCAA, the balance between form and function, and what it means to be an artist.