website: https://www.codependentmind.com/
In this episode, we talk about the different kinds of relationships Brian has had in his life - with abusive people, with other 'codependent's, and with 'healthy' people. Stephanie and Brian discuss how they connected even though Brian was still struggling with codependent behaviors, some of the challenges they faced and how they worked through them. 
00:01:09 'Healthy' people
00:04:16 Relationships with narcissists/abusive people
00:11:25 Relationships with other codependent or disordered people
00:21:17 Brian and Stephanie's relationship
00:27:56 Intimacy and shame
00:31:12 Trust
00:43:33 Attraction


Esther Perel podcast episode "The Addict" on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-addict/id1237931798?i=1000393763538
Esther Perel podcast episode "The Addict" on Spotify  - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5zfYUpAknf9zxsUOF6XKOY