Oliver and Ante pick up their conversation from the last episode, debriefing Ante's sermon, only to dialogue on Christ's experience of God-forsakenness, the existential impact that might have on people who suffer, why God refused to provide Job an answer, how the cosmic conflict framework might illuminate matters, how the cross offers an inverted theophany when compared to the divine discourse in the book of Job, the lessons learned from two family members, the radical cognitive displacement experienced by centurion at the cross, only to conclude with a great biblical passage as a beautiful coda to the episode.EPISODE QUOTE"Anyone who suffers without cause first thinks that he has been forsaken by God. God seems to him to be the mysterious, incomprehensible God who destroys the good fortune that he gave. But anyone who cries out to God in this suffering echoes the death-cry of the dying Christ, the Son of God. In that case God is not just a hidden someone set over against him, to whom he cries, but in a profound sense the human God, who cries with him and intercedes for him with his cross where man in his torment is dumb.” [Moltmann, The Crucified God]EPISODE MATERIALMoltmann, Jesus Christ for Today's WorldMoltmann, The Crucified GodCONNECT WITH USWebsiteFacebookEmail* * * * * NEW TO THE PODCAST?In this podcast, we engage in free-ranging conversations on life, faith, philosophy, ethics, relationships, culture, experience, and all matters existential. As the title of the show points out, we approach these things "in the middle of things," that is, by grabbing hold of them unsystematically and provisionally. Concerning "about us," we are friends and verbal sparring partners who also happen to be colleagues at Andrews University. - Oliver Glanz and Ante Jerončič