In this episode Kerry asks Lincoln Blumell and Gaye Strathearn to help him and the audience to love Paul, even when his teachings in the epistles seem thorny, and to better understand Paul's writings. Together they explore things that can make the epistles difficult to understand, things that make them easier, and things that help us learn from and love them. We are grateful for our sponsor, Lisa Spice, and for our editor, BJ Muhlestein, and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for this episode.