Alain Peeters has been involved in sustainable agriculture and nature conservation since the 70s and he is one of the pioneers of agroecology in the world. In this conversation, he describes how agroecology offers a powerful solution to transform our food system from a destructive to regenerative, while improving the wellbeing of farmers. Unlike conventional agriculture, which often entails a struggle against nature, agroecology advocates for cooperation with natural systems, recognizing their resilience and efficacy. Rooted in the fusion of agricultural science and ecology, agroecology represents a holistic approach that integrates traditional wisdom with contemporary scientific insights. Central to this paradigm is the promotion of biodiversity across all facets of agricultural production, from soil health to landscape management. As societies confront the imperative of transitioning away from fossil fuel dependency, agroecology emerges as a viable pathway towards sustainability, leveraging practices such as minimal soil disturbance and the integration of livestock and crops.The conventional farming model, epitomized by the green revolution, faces mounting challenges, including diminishing returns and escalating debt burdens for farmers. While agroecology promises increased profitability and sustainability, its adoption hinges on overcoming entrenched practices and embracing change. Alain's NGO, Terres Vivantes, offers invaluable support to farmers transitioning towards agroecological practices, providing experiential guidance and fostering collective learning through peer exchanges.Terres Vivantes employs the OASIS system to assess farms' agroecological evolution across multiple dimensions, including farming methods, economics, social dynamics, and environmental resilience. Emphasizing the holistic well-being of farmers, Alain underscores the need to alleviate financial pressures and streamline administrative burdens, thereby fostering a conducive environment for sustainable agriculture.-----------------------------------------------------------This podcast was produced in collaboration with Soil Capital, a company that supports regenerative agriculture for food system resilience and climate action, by financially rewarding farmers who improve soil health.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.