Join host Candice Horbacz as she dives deep into the controversial and often opaque world of church finances in this eye-opening episode of Chatting with Candice. Guests Nathan Apffel and Chris Ayoub share startling insights into the accumulation of massive wealth by religious institutions, their lack of financial accountability, and the sophisticated methods used to collect money from followers. This discussion sheds light on the significant influence churches wield and the minimal oversight they face, sparking a crucial conversation on the need for transparency and reform in religious financial practices. Don't miss this compelling exploration of power, money, and faith in modern religion.00:00:00- Intro00:00:16 - Banned from TikTok00:03:44 - • $890 Billion A year in Donations00:06:55 - The origin of 10% Tide00:11:28 - Frauds in Church funds 00:15:59 - Can’t define a church00:21:58 - Is America truly a Christian Nation? 00:27:33 - Elon Musk called out the scam00:36:05 - Collecting billions with fear00:43:48 - Christianity vs Spirituality00:47:47 - Kenneth Copeland and  Joel Osteen00:50:37 - LSD Church: Biggest landowner in FloridaFind out more about the guests: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/ Nathan’s IG:  https://www.instagram.com/nathan_apffel/Chris’s IG:  https://www.instagram.com/thelight8011/Follow Candice Horbacz on socials:  https://linktr.ee/candicehorbaczSupport the Show.