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Viva Nashvegas

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Jun 27, 2022

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After a delayed NASCAR race finishes under the lights, Jeff and Jordan end their podcast break to share thoughts on all things Nashville. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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After the checkered flag waves each week, motorsports journalists from The Athletic, Jeff Gluck and Jordan Bianchi, offer instant reaction, analysis and debate straight from the racetrack.

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12 Questions with Clint Bowyer: The 12 Questions interview series continues this week with Clint Bowyer of Stewart-Haas Racing. The interview was conducted Sunday morning prior to the Martinsville race. Here is the archive of other 12 Questions from this season. 1. How much of your success is based on natural ability and how much has come from working at it? I would say with me, I don’t know why, but natural ability seems to be the case. This has always come relatively easy for me. The hardest part of our game anymore isn’t the fact you can drive better than the next guy; everybody at this sport, at this level, can drive and is capable of winning these races. It’s how well you work with your team, how well you communicate to your guys to get the most out of your race car. 2. Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Carl Edwards have all retired in the last couple years. What’s your pitch for fans of theirs to become fans of yours? (Note: I know the following answer makes no sense, but it’s Bowyer by The Teardown
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Atlanta Post-Race Podcast: Nate Ryan from NBC Sports co-hosts this week’s post-race podcast from his rental car during the drive home from Atlanta Motor Speedway. Nate, who has a much more interesting and professional podcast than this one — the NASCAR on NBC Podcast (check it out!) — successfully navigated the highways surrounding Atlanta while recording this. And yes, we arrived safely. by The Teardown
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12 Questions with Dale Earnhardt Jr.: Each week, I’ll ask the same 12 questions to a different NASCAR driver. Up next: Dale Earnhardt Jr. of Hendrick Motorsports. (Note: This interview was conducted at Atlanta, so the reference to punching a driver had nothing to do with the Las Vegas fight.) 1. How much of your success is based on natural ability and how much has come from working at it? For a long time, it was all ability, low effort. Now I think it’s 50-50. 2. Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Carl Edwards have all retired in the last couple years. What’s your pitch for fans of theirs to become fans of yours? You know, I’ll be honest with you — I’d probably steer them toward the new guys. I’m on the backside of my deal, so for the health of the sport, I think it’d be awesome if they grabbed onto (Ryan) Blaney or Chase (Elliott) or somebody like that. They’re going to be successful and are going to be around a long time. That would probably be better for everybody. 3. What is the hardest by The Teardown
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Social Spotlight with Landon Cassill: The “Social Spotlight” series continues this week with Landon Cassill, who drives the No. 34 car for Front Row Motorsports. This interview is available in both podcast and written form. How would you describe your social media philosophy? I’m a child of the internet, as we all are, for the most part. I’m your typical Millennial, I think. I grew up doing school work on the internet, playing video games on the internet. I feel like internet culture is part of my life, so I kind of just live it out that way. It’s kind of an extension of me. What was the first social media platform you used? Xanga was my first social media platform. What was Xanga? Xanga was a blog site. Me and my friends had Xanga pages and we’d just post daily content, I guess. (Laughs) It’s all pretty similar — everything has kind of moved from one to the other. Back then, you’d get home from school, log onto the internet on my computer at home — we had dial-up internet for the long by The Teardown
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12 Questions with Daniel Suarez: The 12 Questions series of interviews continues this week with Daniel Suarez of Joe Gibbs Racing. I spoke with Suarez at Texas Motor Speedway. 1. How much of your success is based on natural ability and how much has come from working at it? I really feel like you need to have some natural ability, but at this point of the sport — in the Xfinity Series and the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series — I feel like most of the drivers have the same ability and it all depends on how hard the team and the driver work for every single race. 2. Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Carl Edwards have all retired in the last couple years. What’s your pitch for fans of theirs to become fans of yours? It’s hard to answer that question. I’m just trying to make my way into the sport and trying to be successful. Those are great names of the sport and they’re actually names I grew up looking at. For me, it would be very good if, someday, fans of these guys started to support me. 3. by The Teardown
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Social Spotlight: Austin Dillon: This is the first edition of a new feature called the “Social Spotlight,” where I’ll spend some time asking people in the NASCAR industry about their social media usage. First up: Austin Dillon. You can hear the full interview in the podcast at the bottom of this page, but below is a transcript for those who would rather read it (the transcript has been condensed and edited for clarity). JG: Do you have any private social media accounts? AD: I’m all public on everything. No private stuff. I used to have a Facebook, but don’t have one anymore (except) for the one RCR runs and I do Facebook Live videos from. But as far as Instagram and Twitter, it’s all me. JG: Are you on Snapchat? AD: No. I deleted Snapchat when I got engaged — even before that, when I got a girlfriend. I just didn’t think Snapchat was really for me. Didn’t need it. (Chuckles) JG: So you associate Snapchat with the old days when it wasn’t as corporate. AD: Yeah, and it’s kind of repetiti by The Teardown
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12 Questions with Ryan Newman: The 12 Questions interview series continues with Phoenix race winner Ryan Newman, who spoke with me earlier this month at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. 1. How much of your success is based on natural ability and how much has come from working at it? 50-50. I guess you want to me to elaborate. If you don’t mind. I think you have to have a natural ability, otherwise you just aren’t ever going to get it. It’s no different than any other sport or any other pastime or any other job. But at the same time, in order to be as good as other people, you have to work at it. And that all depends on how gifted you are from the beginning. So the most gifted don’t have to work at it as much. 2. Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Carl Edwards have all retired in the last couple years — Carl didn’t retire. He has not said the ‘R’ word. He’s gone for now. He quit. He quit. When you quit, you stop. Which means you might come back. So he hasn’t retired. So let me rephrase this. Jeff G by The Teardown
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Social Spotlight with Spencer Gallagher: This week’s Social Spotlight interview focuses on the always-entertaining Spencer Gallagher of GMS Racing. You can follow him on Twitter @23SpeedRacer. It seems like you choose your spots when you tweet. Sometimes, you only tweet every few days but try to unleash a gem. Is that your basic strategy? I’m all about quality over quantity, you know? Twitter is full of enough noise as it is, so I try not to add too much to that. If I’ve got something valuable to say, I’ll say it. But I just try not to let people know what my breakfast was every single morning. I find most people find that boring. So I’m the kind of guy that tries to focus on having a real thought. When I have something to contribute to the conversation, that’s when I speak up. So are you not on Twitter all the time? Or do you look at it and decide not to chime in? I check somewhat sporadically, but I will say I’ve gotten more frequent with its updates. It really is my source of NASCAR by The Teardown
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Off-weekend NASCAR podcast with Mom and Dad: With no race this week, I enlisted my mom and dad — Susan and Mike Gluck — to join the podcast and give their thoughts on the NASCAR season so far. by The Teardown
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Social Spotlight with Bubba Wallace: The third edition of the “Social Spotlight” focuses on the social media usage of Roush Fenway Racing’s Bubba Wallace. We spoke last week at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. First of all, I have to give you some credit because a few years ago, you told me about this amazing (photo editing app) called Snapseed. I don’t even use that anymore. You don’t even use it? What have you moved on to? They have Lightroom which is a really good photography app you can get on your computer, and is what a lot of professionals use — I think. But they have it for your phone, so I use that now. Well apparently I have to move onto that. Every time somebody is like, “I really like your Quiet Track picture,” I’m like, “Oh yeah, actually I totally enhanced that using Snapseed,” but I just don’t tell them. Really, I think the trick for photography when you post on social media is you have to make it look nice, but you can’t give it away that it looks too filtered. Right. Yes. Tha by The Teardown
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12 Questions with AJ Allmendinger: The 12 Questions interview series continues this week with AJ Allmendinger of JTG-Daugherty Racing. I spoke to Allmendinger at Phoenix International Raceway. 1. How much of your success is based on natural ability and how much has come from working at it? I would say 50-50. You’ve got to have natural ability to be here for sure. When you’re at the top level, you’re racing against the best in the world. With that said, the difference between the top and the bottom is very tiny. So you’ve got to really work at it to keep trying to hone your skills and especially as they keep changing packages figure out what makes these race cars fast. 2. Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Carl Edwards have all retired in the last couple years. What’s your pitch for fans of theirs to become fans of yours? Nice hair. We’ll just go with that. Nice hair. Do you give out free gel samples? No, I still need a gel sponsor. I get a gel sponsor, and I’ll start giving out free samples by The Teardown
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Daytona 500 Post-Race Podcast: Matt Weaver from Autoweek joins me to help sort through the Daytona 500, and we end up on a tangent to discuss the state of NASCAR fandom and what drivers could do better. by The Teardown
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12 Questions with Kasey Kahne: The 12 Questions series of interviews continues this week with Kasey Kahne of Hendrick Motorsports. I spoke to Kahne at Texas Motor Speedway. 1. How much of your success is based on natural ability and how much has come from working at it? When I was younger, it was both, because my dad always was on me to learn about the cars and work on the cars. But from the first time I got on a four-wheeler, a car or whatever, I felt like I knew what I was doing — and that was nice. So I’d say I had a little bit of ability driving, but I’ve always had to work at it. Today, I’d say I work way harder than (use) ability, it feel likes at times, so it’s just tough. Racing’s tough. It’s always changing, so you can’t just drive. You have to be aware of a lot of other things if you want to go fast. 2. Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Carl Edwards have all retired in the last couple years. What’s your pitch for fans of theirs to become fans of yours? Carl may come back; you’ll by The Teardown
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Social Spotlight with Jimmie Johnson: Each week, I ask a member of the NASCAR industry to shed some light on their social media usage. This week: Seven-time NASCAR champion Jimmie Johnson, who won Sunday’s race at Texas Motor Speedway. Jimmie, you are quite proficient at a number of social platforms. What is your favorite one to use? I’m torn, but I would head towards Instagram. I’m a huge fan of photography and imagery and when it first started off, it was kind of a not-so-popular space (and had) great creativity. It certainly has morphed into something more mass; I’ve seen enough of everyone’s dinners and stuff like that to drive me crazy. But Instagram is probably my favorite. It’s closely followed up by Strava (a workout tracker where followers can like and comment on runs or bike rides). I enjoy my physical activities and it’s amazing how knowing you’re going to post to that app and site, how it will motivate you to run faster, pedal harder, ride longer. You think of interesting n by The Teardown
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Post-Martinsville Podcast with Matt Weaver: Matt Weaver from Autoweek joins me on a carpool ride podcast back from Martinsville, where we discussed all things STP 500 as well as some strange Matt stories, Sheetz and my first post-race podcast sponsor — SAM Tech! by The Teardown
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Social Spotlight with Samantha Busch: Each week, I ask a different member of the NASCAR community about their social media usage. This week: Samantha Busch — the wife of Kyle Busch and the owner of Murph Boutique. You have incredible restraint on social media. You must get a lot of hateful tweets, but yet I’ve never seen you lose your cool. What’s your secret? Well, usually I type it all out just to get it out there and vent, and then I delete it. But I just figure they’re looking for that negative reaction, that’s why they’re sending the mean tweets, so if you just ignore them, they’ll go away. You’ve been on Twitter for a long time now. Over the years have you had any incident where you did lose your cool and then you regretted it later? Wait, do you actually remember how we started Twitter? No, how did it start? I started Twitter because you were telling me about it and then I got engaged (in Feb. 2010). And then you came to interview me that day, and that’s how it got started. That by The Teardown
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Never Closer: After the all-time closest finish in NASCAR history, Jeff and Jordan are abuzz about the racing at Kansas Speedway. Plus, Jordan fills us in on his F1 experience in Miami. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
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Clashes and Crashes: After an eventful Busch Clash to open the NASCAR season at Daytona, Jeff and Jordan are on the scene to talk about all the craziness. Topics range from the excessive wrecks to Jordan's experience in the NASCAR scoring tower to Daytona 500 predictions and more. by The Teardown
36 min listen
Bristol Night Race: As Round 1 of the NASCAR Playoffs comes to a close, Jeff and Jordan break down all the action from the Bristol Night Race and look ahead to what's next. by The Teardown
47 min listen
Two-Time: Jeff and Jordan try to process what just happened in the NASCAR season finale at Phoenix and then chat with the new Cup Series champion. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
76 min listen
Miami Vibes: An eventful NASCAR Playoff race at Homestead-Miami Speedway gives Jeff and Jordan plenty to sort through on this week's postrace podcast. Plus the race winner joins to share his thoughts on a clutch victory. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
59 min listen
Darlington Delivers: Jeff and Jordan discuss the thrilling final stage of the Darlington race and debate NASCAR's upcoming 2025 schedule changes. by The Teardown
82 min listen
Daytona Road Course: With Jordan at Daytona International Speedway and Jeff at Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the guys compare notes on the NASCAR and IndyCar action this weekend from both tracks and discuss what's next. by The Teardown
31 min listen
Virtual Homestead: Racing is back! Well, kind of. With NASCAR drivers in a virtual Homestead race on national television, Jeff and Jordan return to talk about eNASCAR in the age of the virus. by The Teardown
29 min listen
Back to the Brickyard: Jeff and Jordan discuss the NASCAR/IndyCar doubleheader weekend at Indianapolis Motor Speedway and break down the latest developments in Formula One heading into that series' summer break. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
66 min listen
Indianapolis 500 and Dover doubleheader: Jeff and Jordan discuss both the Indy 500 and Dover NASCAR races on this jam-packed episode of The Teardown, plus look ahead to the Daytona regular season cutoff race for NASCAR next week. by The Teardown
49 min listen
Spin the Wheel: Jeff and Jordan react to the Phoenix race and share what they learned from NASCAR's West Coast Swing, plus they give their thoughts on the new short track rules package and potential penalties for Hendrick Motorsports. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
61 min listen
From Sonoma to Baku: Jeff and Jordan have much to discuss this week between NASCAR's race at Sonoma, Formula One in Baku and IndyCar at Road America. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
72 min listen
Yellow Brick Road (to the NASCAR Playoffs): A refreshingly exciting NASCAR race at Kansas Speedway gives Jeff and Jordan plenty to discuss heading into next week's All-Star Race at Texas. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
52 min listen
Penalize THIS: A recent NASCAR penalty sparks a heated disagreement between Jeff and Jordan. The guys also sort through the Atlanta weekend and discuss whether it was a good race. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
86 min listen
Have You Ever?: Atlanta delivers an all-time classic NASCAR finish and a tremendous race, leaving Jeff and Jordan buzzing over what this means for the track's future. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
61 min listen
Farewell, Fontana: As the big oval takes a bow for the final time before its demolition, Jeff and Jordan reflect on Fontana's history and discuss the last NASCAR Cup Series race at Auto Club Speedway. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
74 min listen
Ten Christmas gifts for NASCAR drivers: Santa Jeff and Santa Jordan bring their version of the holiday spirit to this week's podcast by choosing five gifts each to give NASCAR drivers. Which 10 made the cut for their nice list this year? To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
26 min listen
Offseason Week 7: New Year's resolutions for NASCAR: Jeff and Jordan are back one more time in 2019 to discuss their three New Year's resolutions for NASCAR and debate whether Cup drivers should be limited when it comes to racing dirt. by The Teardown
32 min listen
Texas playoff race: Jeff and Jordan break down the impact of the long-delayed Texas race on the NASCAR playoff picture and discuss how the race was won. Plus the guys share some thoughts on Kyle Larson signing with Hendrick Motorsports. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
36 min listen
NASCAR's underachievers and overachievers of 2020: In our latest year-in-review podcast, Jeff and Jordan each give their three underachievers and overachievers of the 2020 NASCAR Cup Series season. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
54 min listen
A Hoarse Race in Texas: After a memorable race for all the wrong reasons, Jeff and Jordan try to digest what they just witnessed at Texas Motor Speedway. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices by The Teardown
60 min listen

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