Join us in this enlightening episode as we reconnect with Dr. Donal Collins, to explore innovative approaches to managing type 2 diabetes. Through shared decision-making, whether it’s dietary changes or new medications, we discuss how managing insulin and energy intake can shrink fat cells and reduce inflammation. Donal & Ben explore the strategic decision-making required at various levels—individual practices, PCNs, and integrated care boards, to implement these changes effectively. This conversation touches on the challenges of demonstrating long-term cost benefits of proactive care., so tune in for a comprehensive discussion on the future of managing chronic diseases. Introduction (00:09) Treatment for type 2 diabetes (01:32)  Impact of current treatment.. (05:26) Why is it something we've never been able to achieve? (09:04) Making the effort.. (10:39)  Where is the right place for these conversations? (12:29)  Introduction of new roles (13:32)  Where do you think this best sits?(15:29)  The science of change.. (18:21) Getting in touch.. (20:57)  Listen to Donal & Bens previous episode here. Contact Donal Collins via email here, via twitter here or access his linkedin here. For all enquiries about the Ockham podcast, please contact Ben Gowland here.