In this episode of the Church Disrupted Podcast, Jeff Cochran interviews Natalie Runion, the author of 'Raised to Stay' and the upcoming book 'The House that Jesus Built.' They discuss staying in a relationship with Jesus in the face of things like church hurt and spiritual abuse, and the importance of balance in addressing hard church issues. Natalie shares her personal experience of church hurt and how it led her to create a safe space for others to wrestle with their faith.

They also touch on the topic of forgiveness and how it can be weaponized, the process of healing from church hurt, and the need for churches to create safe environments and address unhealthy systems. They offer advice for individuals who are hesitant to re-engage with the church and encourage pastors and church leaders to be a safe haven for those who have been hurt.

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- https://www.instagram.com/raisedtostay/?hl=en
- https://natalierunion.com/
- https://tinyurl.com/526vaaj2
- https://www.amazon.com/Raised-Stay-Persevering-Ministry-Million/dp/0830784608

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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Natalie Runion and the Topic of Church Hurt
03:04 Healing from Church Hurt and Spiritual Abuse
07:41 Creating Safe Environments in Churches
13:41 Staying Connected to Jesus in Difficult Seasons
28:28 Navigating Church Relationships with Discernment
40:41 Supporting Church Staff Members in Abusive Situations
43:07 The Importance of Forgiveness and Healing
45:01 The Power of Empathy
49:39 Revival: A Heart Transformation
54:16 Addressing Issues in Church Systems

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