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Pygmalion by David C. Smith

Pygmalion by David C. Smith

FromFuture of Coding


Pygmalion by David C. Smith

FromFuture of Coding

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Length:
190 minutes
Released:
Jun 19, 2024
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

If you're anything like Ivan (oof, sorry), you've heard of Pygmalion but never caught more than the gist. Some sort of project from the early 70s, similar to Sketchpad or Smalltalk or something, yet another promising prototype from the early history of our field that failed to take the world by storm. Our stock-in-trade on this show.
But you've probably heard of Programming by Demonstration. And you've certainly heard of icons — you know, those little pictures that have become indelibly part of computing as we know it. Pygmalion is the originator of these concepts… and more!
The best introduction to Pygmalion is Mariano Guerra's No-code History: Pygmalion, which includes a clearly articulated summary of the big ideas, motivation, and design, with a video demonstration of the programming interface, key terminology, and links.
The most introduction to Pygmalion — or Pig Million, The Millionth Pig, as it'll surely come to be known — is the subject of today's episode: the original paper by David Canfield Smith.
Links
$ We don't run ads on this show anymore. Sometimes Ivan makes a fake ad for a nonsense product like CarrotGrid or Hest, but those don't pay for the dirt & vapor we grow them in. But what if they could?


Gonna just get this one out of the way: Quotation — and I quote, "A crucial semantic distinction between direct and indirect speech is that direct speech purports to report the exact words that were said or written EXACTLY AS THEY WERE SAID OR WRITTEN, LU, whereas indirect speech is a representation of speech in one's own words WHICH IS ALSO TOTALLY FINE, BUT JUST BE COOL ABOUT IT HEY?"


@TodePond@mas.to: but wouldn't it be funny... if i quoted those statements on a podcast... and the podcast editor thought... "that doesn't sound right, bret can't have said that"... (he can do no wrong after all)... and so they thought i was just paraphrasing him wrong... and they didn't mark them as quotes like all the other quotes in the show... wouldn't that be funny


DrawDeadFish.com


Shout out to Brian Hempel who sent us (among other treats) this concise summary of Pig Million from the seminal book Watch What I Do: Programming by Demonstration.


Recent FoC Patreon bonus episodes were about the game Baba is You and, on our first ever video episode, the design of a visual representation for machine code.


Leda and the Swan.


Lenna, a sexist test image that was and to some extent still is widely used in computer graphics.


Living Computation


Lu: Biscuit


Jimmy: Biscuit


Ivan: Limp Bizkit


Fine, I might as well link to Frege and analogy.


Aaron Sloman's INTERACTIONS BETWEEN PHILOSOPHY AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE: The Role of Intuition and Non-Logical Reasoning in Intelligence


Ivan: Platonism


Jimmy: Neoplatonism


Lu: Neuplatonism


I would never Derrida


Nosey words


History of the alphabet


TodeTode


Lu: Conlang


Ivan: Conlon Nancarrow, beloved (by Ivan, at least) composer of music for the Player Piano. Here's a baby-faced Adam Neely with the scoop if you're new to Nancarrow. Welcome.


Jimmy: Conway Twitty


Autological words


Heterological words


School for Poetic Computation


Programming by Demonstration


Player vs Environment


For the video demonstrating the programming model, check Mariano's post


Open Canvas Working Group


Lu's project CellPond, and their SPLASH talk


StageCast Creator


Marcel Goethals makes a lot of cool weird stuff and is a choice follow.


Why does it say "Put all the metal back in the ground" at the bottom of the show notes?
Music featured in this episode:

Various old stuff by Ivan. The music for StageCast Creator is called Between Two Tigers.
Conlon Nancarrow's Study No. 47
Wagner, the new Witness haunting every episode.

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Lu: Mastodon • Website

See you in the future!
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Released:
Jun 19, 2024
Format:
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