Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch with Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss! In today's episode, we dive deep into the critical challenges of lead conversion, exploring how businesses can shorten sales cycles and improve conversion rates. Roland and Ryan share their latest insights and strategies, focusing on the power of pillar content and effective follow-up techniques. They discuss real-world data and experiences, revealing what works and what doesn't in today's competitive market. Whether you're in B2B or B2C, selling products or services.Highlights:"The faster we followed up, the less it made a difference; it’s the quality of engagement that counts.""Differentiation is key – without a compelling offer, you're just another option on a crowded shelf.""What is the one piece of content that you wish everyone would see before making a decision? That’s your pillar content.""We found that the ungated content on YouTube drove more qualified leads than traditional methods."Timestamps:00:00 - The Challenge of Differentiation01:13 - Welcome and Introductions04:45 - Achieving Top 200 Podcast Status05:50 - Slow Growth and Sales Data Insights10:00 - Consumer Skepticism and Marketing Claims17:28 - Testing Speed to Lead and Volume20:00 - Importance of Pillar Content28:27 - Step-by-Step Implementation34:32 - Optimizing Lead Follow-Up39:57 - Final Thoughts and Call to ActionCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier ?  https://msha.ke/rolandfrasier/Connect with me on social:? TikTok:  / rolandfrasier   ?  Instagram: