Developer relations have gone through quite an evolution over the years. In this reissued episode, Corey talks with Jeremy Meiss, former Director of DevRel and Community at CircleCI, about how DevRel has transitioned from a focus on conference appearances to a more strategic alignment with business objectives. Corey and Jeremy also discuss navigating career complexities during economic downturns, emphasizing the importance of maintaining relevance. They also touch on fostering open communication within organizations and the enduring value of personal interactions in professional communities.Show Highlights:(1:39) How CircleCI is using DevRel to helping clients go from developer’s laptops to production safely and sanely(6:23) What DevRel means to Jeremy and why it’s a problem that most people can’t define it(12:40) Why saying DevRel is part of product ignores much of what makes both roles unique(15:36) Combating burnout from being able to perform you’re role but not feeling connected to what the company actually does(21:30) How Jeremy sees DevRel evolvingAbout Jeremy:Jeremy is the former Director of DevRel & Community at CircleCI, formerly at Solace, Auth0, and XDA. He is active in the DevRel Community, and is a co-creator of DevOpsPartyGames.com. A lover of all things coffee, community, open source, and tech, he is also house-broken, and (generally) plays well with others.Links Referenced:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremymeiss/ Twitter:  IAmJerdog - Jeremy’s @DevOpsAms https://twitter.com/iamjerdog?lang=enSponsor:Panoptica: https://www.panoptica.app/