The Never Not Creative podcast is back after a 2 year hiatus. Joining Andy for this new season is co-host, Rachel Zhang, a digital product designer living in Sydney and with experience working across brands and agencies including Telstra, R/GA, Accenture Song and now her own design consultancy Ro&Co.

This first episode of the new season focuses on Burnout. Andy and Rachel pull in some of the best advice that’s been shared by Asking For A Friend guests from over the past 3 years of events.

Leaders and experts we refer to in this episode include:
- Simon Lee, ECD and Co-Founder of The Hallway
- Kimberlee Wells, CEO, TBWA Melbourne
- Sabina Read, Psychologist
- Jess Lilley, Creative Director, The Open Arms
- Ash King, Psychologist
- Wez Hawes, ECD, Innocean
- Katie Feder, Psychotherapist

Questions we cover include:
- How to deal with the franticness of deadline after deadline?
- Will we ever be able to protect our mental health if we can’t say no to clients?
- How do I say no to myself?

Listen to the full advice from our guests by clicking the links above.

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Thanks to our sponsor Streamtime. Studio management software for happier, healthier creative teams and businesses.
And a big thank you to B Corp creative agency, Paper Moose who shared their space and recording equipment for this episode.
Thanks also to Linley Lai who’s produced and edited this episode - nice work!

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