Liv speaks with Dr Joe Watson about the trans characters of Ovid's Metamorphoses, Iphis and Caeneus, along with some necessary asides into Atalanta, Arachne, and Medusa. Follow Joe on Twitter. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.