What does the movie "Inside Out" teach us about leadership?My conversation with Wayland Lum from Copperbox Leadership Advisory, who brought up "fear is the precursor to courage," reminded me of Joy and Sadness in "Inside Out."The movie is all about human emotions. And there's this interesting dynamic between Joy and Sadness in the movie. The big lesson is that you can't really appreciate joy if you've never experienced sadness. I see a similar principle in what you were saying about fear and courage. They are not as separate as we might think. They are two sides of the same coin.In this episode, you'll find out why fear isn't your enemy, but rather your courage's hype man. Wayland also shared his 8 principles of modern leadership. His moves from California to Mexico to Chicago and London. From Nvidia to Chicago Booth to Korn Ferry, now building his own leadership advisory practice in Austin, Texas. Lastly, his views on the AI coaching.Episode Breakdown:00:14—Welcome and Introductions: Meet Your Human Host (While Human Intelligence is still Valued)02:54—The Great Escape: Why Wayland decided to ditch the cushy corporate life and bet on himself. Spoiler: It wasn't for the free snacks11:33—"We Develop Modern Leaders to Face the Biggest Business Challenges": How Wayland Defines Modern in the Context of Leadership?15:33—Wayland's Eight Principles of Modern Leadership:Get Grounded in Core PurposePick up the Torch of LeadershipUnderstand the Origins of HumanityEmbrace Life's Stages and SeasonsSee in SystemsNature as Majestic TeacherShackles of Time Forged by HumansTechnologies as Tools24:48—Wayland on AI coaching: "Coaching involves human connection, empathy, and understanding deeply personal experiences. We must ask ourselves, is an interaction with AI what we want, or do we seek genuine human connection and support?"Connect with Us:Wayland Lum and Vince ChanChief Change Officer: Make Your Laws of ChangeA Global Home to Career Mastery for Progressive MindsHighest Apple Podcasts Careers Rankings Attained:#1 US, Canada, Ireland and Switzerland#2 UK, Sweden and Singapore || #3 India || #5 Japan520,000+ Streams and 23,000+ FollowersListen Ambitiously. Subscribe and Thrive.