Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!Can Michael Lofton's criticisms hold water against the venerable Cardinal Zen? This episode promises to unravel the web of controversy surrounding their recent public clash, marked by technical glitches in Rob's absence and a wave of audience-generated memes and messages. We'll dissect the uproar sparked by Lofton's critical stance on Cardinal Zen's comments about "Fiducia Suplicans" and church leadership, alongside Steve Ray's supportive tweet that drew Lofton's ire. Buckle up for an engaging exploration of the finer points of respectful theological debate and the broader implications for the Catholic community.What future does the papacy hold amidst the growing schisms and resistance within the Church? Our discussion extends beyond the Zen-Lofton drama to the ongoing confusion triggered by recent papal documents and statements, especially since the release of Amoris Laetitia. With hopes pinned on a more conservative successor, we delve into historical precedents and the potential for a traditionalist resurgence. Contemplate the prospects of a return to traditional theology and the ensuing challenges, all while we humorously compare Michael Lofton's provocations to Buddy Pine from The Incredibles.Join us for an insightful journey through the tumultuous landscape of modern Catholicism. From the tension between ecumenism and traditional doctrine to the impact of globalism on Christian nations, we tackle the essential debates shaping today's Church. Engaging with diverse viewpoints, including those of Kennedy Hall, Tim Gordon, and others, we underscore the importance of charity and understanding amidst doctrinal crises. With an eye on the societal consequences of losing a unified Christian framework, this episode promises to be both thought-provoking and entertaining.Support the Show.********************************************************https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://shop.avoidingbabylon.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rssSpiritusTV: https://spiritustv.com/@avoidingbabylonOdysee: https://odysee.com/@AvoidingBabylon