Today, Hunter is joined by three Public Defenders from the state of Pennsylvania to get a feel for how Public Defense is fairing outside of the Philadelphia. Autumn Johnson, Sara Jacobsen, and Samuel Encarnacion join the show to discuss what’s happening in Mercer County, Lancaster County, and around the state. Recently, Pennsylvania dedicated its first ever state level funding for Public Defense, but is it too little too late? With a new ACLU lawsuit having just dropped, it will be interesting how the state responds to the crisis of Public Defense in Pennsylvania?     Guests: Sara Jacobsen, Executive Director, Public Defender Association of Pennsylvania Samuel Encarnacion, First Assistant Public Defender, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Autumn Johnson, Chief Public Defender, Mercer County, Pennsylvania     Resources: UPenn Public Defender Study https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/16737-significant-public-defender-shortage PDAP https://www.papublicdefenders.com/ Email Sara  sara.jacobson@temple.edu Email Autumn aljohnson@mercercountypa.gov Email Sam encarnas@lancastercountypa.gov     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*